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CuriousGeorge
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posted 12-29-2003 03:01 PM              Reply w/Quote
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/78/jobs.html

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hmmm . . .
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posted 12-29-2003 04:00 PM              Reply w/Quote
Because its holiday season and besides . . . this is nothing new. If this is something really new to you then . . .


. . . welcome to reality

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Hey CORE!
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posted 12-29-2003 04:25 PM              Reply w/Quote
Remove this link from your homepage! It's nothing new! Welcome to reality you idiots!

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required reading
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posted 12-29-2003 09:21 PM              Reply w/Quote
Yeah, stop being so arrogant about this, like you knew all this business stuff when you were born, you two morons above here.

Curious has brought up a topic few designers talk or care about and it's an article anyone doing creative work in industry should not only read, but memorize. Your ideas, bright as they may be, are worth nada if they have no effect on larger segments of the general population or don't bring your employer cold hard cash. It shows innovation all by itself is useless if not properly implemented in a larger business results-oriented strategy. No one out there cares about your little renderings except yourself.

Great topic, hopes it brings on more intelligent comments than so far.

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discuss this and apply it
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posted 01-05-2004 11:55 AM              Reply w/Quote
OK here's one for you:

name the guy who invented the internal combustion engine and name how much mnoney he made off of it......

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Apple versus Oranges
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posted 01-05-2004 12:11 PM              Reply w/Quote
this is from the same rag that preached at the altar of IPOs and techie "new business models" in the 90's.....

while it makes a point and teaches a lesson in regards to innovation as a business model, it does so from the interior or corporate side of the model, not the external or customer side of the model.

as expressed here form the sidebar note:

Not All Innovation Is Equal
1.Technical innovation will earn you lots of adoring fans (think Apple). Business-model innovation will earn you lots of money (think Dell).
2. Innovate for Cash, Not Cachet
If your cool new thing doesn't generate enough money to cover costs and make a profit, it isn't innovation. It's art.
3. Don't Hoard Your Goodies
Getting to market on time and at the right price is vital. If that means licensing your idea to an outside manufacturer or marketer, do it.
4. Innovation Doesn't Generate Growth. Management Does
If you covet awards for creativity, go to Hollywood. Managers get rewarded for results, which come from customers.
5. Attention Deficit Has No Place Here
Every innovation worth doing deserves your commitment. Don't leap from one new thing to another. If your creation doesn't appear important to you, it won't be important to anyone else.

its audience is not a designer or a customer but the management.

so be warned that it should be discussed if you are focused on innovation as a business model. but as one of the commenters posted:

"The unspoken assumption in this article is that making loads of money is the ultimate goal of a business venture. Apple is a sustainable, profitable company with loyal customers. Why compare Apple`s bottom line with Microsoft`s? Microsoft has hordes of customers who are lukewarm about Microsoft products. Apple has far fewer customers, but they fiercely love Apple products. To the engineers at Apple, this is far more rewarding than the bottom line. "

what is the ends to your means? customers or profit or both?

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OSX me too
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posted 01-05-2004 03:28 PM              Reply w/Quote
Is innovation truly the problem or is Apple choice not to use "dime a day" labor to manufacture cheap goods, for the Walmart society we all shop in.

Exploited people manufacturing our next technocrap is always a good recipe to make more money.

Cheaper is better.
Now cheaper is good design?
Cheaper makes for good margins.

Innovation has the burden of responsibility to all not just to investors.

Unfortunately consumers always go for the deal.

If good design is in the details...... the detail must be the little sticker on every thing "made in China"
JK

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