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Changingsoon
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posted 11-04-2003 07:53 PM              Reply w/Quote
The link posted below IS NOT MY PORTFOLIO
http://www.coroflot.com/public/individual_details.asp?job_seeker_id=44097&t=&display_portfolio=yes

; yet, a view of images that will be included in my portfolio eventually. I am submitting a portfolio to Carnegie Mellon University this upcoming January for their Early Admissions Program in Industrial Design (where students skip their senior year of H.S. to go to college). In the interim of the application process I will be submitting a new design approximately one per week. I am asking for review of the images posted so that I may submit the best portfolio possible--worth 50% of my acceptance criterion--I would also like to hear from those enrolled in CMU who after completing the application process, have been accepted in the Industrial Design program.

Thank You,

Kyle Overton

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FlyingToaster
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posted 11-05-2003 11:29 AM              Reply w/Quote
Hey Kyle -

I'm a freshman designer at CMU. If you're applying for the regular undergrad program, you aren't making the decision of industrial or communication design yet. That doesn't happen until the end of freshman year.

Make sure you include tons of PROCESS work in your portfolio. CMU design is a bit obsessed with the stuff.

Good luck, and please email me if you have questions (sendmoney@cmu.edu)

Jenny

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SilkkNLPc
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posted 11-05-2003 01:05 PM              Reply w/Quote
hey, nice to see other students on here! Im a sophmore at kansas state..my portfolio is on here also just to gain feedback. I like your phone peice, the chair i dont understand (what prog was it made in)? someone on here told me not to use bryce anymore(donno jus passing the info on) you can check out my portfolio to see what i have been working on, i try to update it every week ( i put things i have been working on for a few classes on there). i dont know what to say, im a graphic design student. Well check out my portfolio let me know what you think! www.coroflot.com/SilkkNLPc

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Changingsoon
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posted 11-05-2003 03:25 PM              Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the feedback.

To FlyingToaster: I am aware that one, upon acceptance into CMU, is not officially determined as an Industrial Design student; yet enrolled in the Design School of the College of Fine Arts. You've stated that "process" is a major component of the portfolio requirements...would you elaborate. Would it be sufficient to submit a sketchbook with "Work in Progress" images of the computer representation. Through what approach did you specifically undertake on your application.

To SilkkNLPc: Thank you for your compliments on the phone project--the objects shown were used in a poster for a German advertisement--candid, because I found that you speak German as well...Guten Tag. Bryce 5--or a subsidiary--I have been using since I was nine, and while I don't use it as heavily as I do Rhino 2.0--What I modeled the Chaise in--Occasionally I'll use it for rendering purposes. I looked at your portfolio and I would suggest working on your typography. "Use text to enhance the image, to engage the viewer into the photograph...not as a deterrent from the beauty of the design" to use a quote.
I will be posting new images as they are developed, once again, thank you for your feedback.

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Changingsoon
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posted 11-05-2003 07:52 PM              Reply w/Quote
Please submit feedback

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Dude
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posted 11-05-2003 10:48 PM              Reply w/Quote
Hey Kyle,
Your work is better than a lot of design undergrads, seriously! I'm certain you'll be a star student.

However to do so you need a couple must haves: you must show two additional things, not just final computer renderings. They are:

1. Sketches: how well can this individual quickly and effectively communicate their ideas visually

2. Process: Why was the electronics device or the chair designed the way it was. Show variations of those projects to show how they evolved.

Best of luck

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Changingsoon
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posted 11-06-2003 04:24 AM              Reply w/Quote
To Dude: I thank you greatly for the encouragement. I'm working on the sketches right now--no, not a backwards approach (I'm scanning in the images to do touch up work in photoshop to present a clean sketch with a slightly faded effect, b/c eventually my portfolio will be one entity, booklet size--For process my goals are to devote an entire page for each item of the different designs that I went through--size, color choices, and changes of the overall product!--leading to the final design, and hopefully a scene in which the design has been superimposed. But thank you again for such compliments--encouragement such as that only drives me to go further--

I appreciate any and all feedback.

~Kyle

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FlyingToaster
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posted 11-06-2003 01:44 PM              Reply w/Quote
Hey Kyle -

As far as the undergrad application, I might not be the best one to ask. My portfolio consisted only of finished pieces. I got in anyway, but at my CMU portfolio review AND at the CMU booth at a portfolio day I was told I needed more process work to show my thinking. Now that I'm here I see what they mean; they don't want to see your finished idea only, but where it came from. If you have a process/sketchbook where you develop an idea, include that with the finished product.

So... I'd take out individual process work for pieces and include them rather than throw in a whole sketchbook.

Also... come here for a portfolio review rather than send in or submit online. They claim you get preference that way. Sign up for a bagger weekend and you can do your interview/portfolio review with design while you're here. Or, if you live in the area, set up an appointment.

Hope that helps.... let me know if it doesn't.

Jenny

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Changingsoon
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posted 11-06-2003 06:31 PM              Reply w/Quote
To Jenny: I apologize for not making myself more clear. I am coming to CMU for a portfolio design review--this upcoming January for the Sleeping bag Weekend--My portfolio is going to be an 18x12 booklet that showcases my best work. As you know, the portfolio must have 15-20 original works; I plan to include roughly 17 works each with sketches, variations, a final rendering, and--time permitting--use of the object in a scene. If I work diligently over winter holiday, I aspire to create a CD-ROM as well, which will include rotate-able models of all the submitted work, and one or two multimedia productions. Thank you Jenny for all of your help. Most likely by Mon. I will have updated the "portfolio" site to include new works.

~Kyle

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Changingsoon
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posted 11-06-2003 06:32 PM              Reply w/Quote
Feedback from others is welcome. :-D

~Kyle

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FlyingToaster
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posted 11-23-2003 02:09 PM              Reply w/Quote
Hey Kyle -

Awesome that you're visiting campus! Email me when you come - we'll show you a good time.

Jenny
sendmoney@cmu.edu

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jojo
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posted 11-24-2003 10:53 PM              Reply w/Quote
art center- fart center

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Changingsoon
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posted 12-03-2003 07:33 PM              Reply w/Quote
I've made some additions!!! Posted on the website, I've included the original Chaise Lounge and two WIP of a new design for a pen and a watch. Please post feedback, your critiques are very beneicial. I would like to thank Jenny for her wonderful replies, and others as well. The link is included below: http://www.coroflot.com/public/individual_details.asp?job_seeker_id=44097&t=&display_portfolio=yes

~Kyle

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senior at CMU
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posted 12-04-2003 01:05 AM              Reply w/Quote
You still might not get in with your current portfolio. I'll tell you why, and you can listen or not, whatever, I don't care.
You should show them your -potential- to be a good designer, not that you already are (or think you are) one.
six years of experience already? Why are you going to school then?
I think it's more difficult to reteach someone how to design rather than teaching someone from scratch. So show them other things than your 3d models, show them your potential, show them that you will be a good student, show them that you have an open mind to new ideas and that you will give your best while you're here. With that in mind go set off on a project that'll show all that. You shouldn't just show them stuff that you've 'designed' already. If this doesn't make any sense I'll give you one example. Keep in mind it's just one example.

Go do something you've never done before, paint, take photographs whatever. You will probably suck at it since you're so new to it. But then keep working on it for a while until you get a little better. Now, I don't know if I'd put this along with the other slides without an explanation but definitely bring it into the review. It will never look like portfolio material, because since you're so new at it, it'll look like crap. What you should do is not just bring the final piece in but bring in the first thing you painted, and you bring every other painting you've done since then. This shows your willingness to fail but keep working at something and never giving up. It'll also show that you're open to trying out new and different things. (These are good traits to have in general anyway, but especially good for a student.) And so something like this can't be understood with just a bunch of 3d models that you've done and already good at.

Oh and if you do get in and you choose to come here take advantage of the fact that it's not an art school and dive into other fields while you're here like mechanical engineering, computer science, psychology, business, biology, or anything else. It'll open your eyes and blow your mind!

feel free to stop by senior studio, I'll probably be here since I pretty much live here.

damn, look a the time! I gotta get back to finishing up my final projects now....

Ko

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posted 12-04-2003 03:57 AM              Reply w/Quote
In CCS they don't really care about your ability to draw cars or product. They care about your ability to draw from real life observations. This is how they judge your foundation skills, and it's the same for everyone who's trying to get in, whether to ID or other majors.

Of course if you have other skills like photography and computer, it's no harm to show. It will just be a plus, but won't get you that far.

To be honest CCS's entry portfolio requirement is pretty easy. But a good portfolio gets you good scholarship.

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6ix
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posted 12-04-2003 09:15 AM              Reply w/Quote
You are only in high-school? You certainly have a ton of potential, which is clearly evident in your examples. The "finger" pen is a really great concept. Since you know how to render, how 'bout doing a nice rendering of the pen and then dropping it onto a picture of a hand in Photoshop? Don't try rendering the hand, way too difficult. That would help the viewer easily understand how the product works.

The watch and chair both look very nice. Very impressed by the watch, as they are sometimes difficult to model. Something I would suggest while you are progressing through school is to pick a certain industry that you really want to be in (like watches, shoes, etc.) and try to work on a few of those projects on the side. Helps build your portfolio up a little more and will be beneficial when searching for that first job bout of school.
I think all of your work is fine to show in your portfolio review. I mean, if they don't let someone like you in (who has cetainly showed that they have the initiative and passion to learn), then I'm lost as to what they are searching for.

Best of luck.

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my two pennies
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posted 12-04-2003 12:27 PM              Reply w/Quote
i think your stuff looks interesting. You've got a good sense of aesthetic. My only complaint is that you don't show any process. How did you come to this design solution and why? i'd like to see why this was what you came up with. Also, show some of the stuff in context. I think that white thing is a phone? or is it? It looks cool...but i don't know what it is!

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Changingsoon
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posted 12-30-2003 02:55 PM              Reply w/Quote
I have updated my portfolio... with the portfolio. On the website http://www.coroflot.com/public/individual_details.asp?job_seeker_id=44097&t=&display_portfolio=yes are the first two pages of the portfolio for CMU and the title page. I thank you all for the feedback...even the 422 visitors of the site who haven't left any . Just 4 weeks to go, and I'll be in Pittsburgh amongst the like of Craig Vogel and Jonathan Cagan. I'm very anxious.

The next four pages will have some concept images of the Chaise lounge...the layout for the portfolio is concept sketches, initial renderings, final rendering, and then information on the project. At the end of the portfolio there will be a CD with a multimedia presentation I did for my IB ITGS class. Once again, thank you all for the feedback.

Kyle

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OSUFRESHMAN
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posted 12-30-2003 03:14 PM              Reply w/Quote
Damn, that is pretty good stuff. I am a freshman and don't have anything close. Good luck man, I'm sure you will do fine.

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IDiot
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posted 12-30-2003 04:16 PM              Reply w/Quote
As has been mentioned by others, you need more process. What you have shown here are fine for final concepts especially at your level, but in the interview process you need to show the interviewers how you got there. You need to show them the process. Add some people into the product work, the hand as was mentioned might be nice, someone sitting on the couch, these will geive a sense of scale and personality to the products. Also, this is a bit of a picky thing, but change the font that the pen is writing, preferrably to actual writing.

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Changingsoon
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posted 01-05-2004 02:46 AM              Reply w/Quote
I've updated the portfolio. Unfortunately through the update I've had to remove some creations, due to file size. I thank those who have left comments; and I've also included some process work...more to come. You'll notice that not a lot of process work has been included in these pages, because of the unique way in which the Chaise Lounge design came about (see background information on the first page). There's more to come, I just haven't taken the time to upload . Thank you all for your critiques, they have been helpful, and encouraging.
Kyle http://www.coroflot.com/public/individual_details.asp?job_seeker_id=44097&t=&display_portfolio=yes

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