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in awe unregistered	posted 12-10-2003 03:37 PM http://www.cranbrookart.edu/2d IP: Logged
irsd unregistered	posted 12-10-2003 04:16 PM interesting for sure. IP: Logged
critique unregistered	posted 12-10-2003 05:25 PM The B&W clip art and the homage to Mac SE aliased aesthetic (c1984) makes this site a jewel. Not since the heady post modern days of Memphis have I been so impressed by something so unpolished. 2D design has arrived in Michigan! IP: Logged
not impressed unregistered	posted 12-10-2003 06:48 PM Holy crap what are you people on? All I ever here is how great cranbrook is. What a load of crap... case in point. The text (not handwritten bios) is almost illegible, navigation is interesting in some places but the graphics for it are boring. Shouldn't have to adjust all your setting to see their site. Gee let's see, would I hire any of these art kids, no. That was art not design. Where's the substance in there projects? Process? Meaning? Human Factors/Interface? Worst part is their sketching ability is at the level of a third graders!!! IP: Logged
whatever unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 02:28 AM All pomp, no substance. The tour of Elliott's studio! Get real. I can hear it now, "This is where the master creates..... I'll give credit when credit is due, but this display comes off as extremely self centered and aloof. IP: Logged
timf unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 08:12 AM Just goes to show, that you never want to go to a design school where someone famous went.Cranbrook - Let the 1980's April Grieman go! IP: Logged
may unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 08:57 AM a lot of famous people have gone to cranbrook -- elliott earls, lisa krohn, scott and laurie makela, rik sferra, eric chan, jeff keedy, ed fella, andrew blauvelt, masamichi udagawa, niels diffrient, matt owens and warren corbitt, alan hori, lucille tenazas, jesse reiser, robert nakata, hani rashid, david rowland, etc. -- but april greiman is not one of them. IP: Logged
Actually unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 09:47 AM I love this site! It's so quirky and playful, and the black and white great. If I remember correctly, the previous version was weird in a really bad way, with horrible colors and even worse typography. IP: Logged
Timf unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 10:33 AM May - Thanks for correcting me. My memories of the 80's are becoming cloudy IP: Logged
DSGNCHICK unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 12:32 PM April Greiman did have ties to the school, partly because she was good friends with P. Scott Makela, who co-chaired the 2D Design department before Elliott Earls. So, there was a connection in that sense, and maybe also aesthetically. This site is amazing, by the way. Wow. IP: Logged
unimpressed unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 05:59 PM it's hard to read and navigate, that makes it a good website? IP: Logged
? unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 09:52 PM Jealous, are you? IP: Logged
unimpressed unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 10:11 PM No, I think it is a gorgeous website. However it is not functional. What good is it then? IP: Logged
? unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 10:17 PM So, are you going by aesthetics or usability? Pick your camp. Also, consider the intended audience (which may or may not be you). First and foremost, the site is a recruitement tool for potential students. Maybe they would consider it usable? IP: Logged
unimpressed unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 10:49 PM how is it usable if you can't read it? IP: Logged
not impressed unregistered	posted 12-11-2003 11:08 PM quote: Originally posted by ?: Jealous, are you? Thanks for the laugh. It's crap like this called "design" that gives product designers no respect from management, marketing, and engineers. Thanks for helping the cause. Good luck with your art. IP: Logged
YES unregistered	posted 12-12-2003 01:44 AM The student profiles section is admirable. To each his own on the rest. IP: Logged
robots are tasty unregistered	posted 12-12-2003 03:37 AM designers are not artists designers are not artists is the site cool? yes is the site functional? maybe, if you don't want to read any of the text is it one of the best designed sites? far from it. from the student work I say cranbrrok is a great art school and that is it. IP: Logged
thinking.. unregistered	posted 12-12-2003 04:07 AM It would be ok if i could read the writing. What is the site for? advertising the school? i dont want to go. Function before form, always! IP: Logged
not impressed unregistered	posted 12-12-2003 12:46 PM quote: Originally posted by thinking..: What is the site for? advertising the school? i dont want to go. I am just recovered from rolling around on the floor with tears in my eyes, that was so funny. IP: Logged
hmm unregistered	posted 12-12-2003 02:13 PM I don't find anything too hard to read. For the student pages, you havce to commit to read the writing, but then it's pretty intimate writing. It should require some effort. I think the site is beautiful and original, and clearly organized. I love the student work as well. IP: Logged
unimpressed unregistered	posted 12-12-2003 05:37 PM If I showed the site to my one of my visual communciations professors and told him it was my website he would kick me out of the design program. IP: Logged
hmm unregistered	posted 12-12-2003 07:41 PM Perhaps you're in a vo-tech program. That's okay, the field is broad enough for all types. But, Cranbrook has a specific hallmark and philosophy, and this site exhibits that. It may not be for you, but then the program is probably not for you either. IP: Logged
unimpressed unregistered	posted 12-12-2003 11:33 PM It's not for me, that's because I want to study design and not art. IP: Logged
Crannie unregistered	posted 12-13-2003 09:29 AM Well, I went to Cranbrook, seeking a design education and I believe I got one. I also believe that the work I made there was design, and that design is what I continue to make now. No, the program is not for everybody, but it's also not art, if you're inclined to make those kinds of distinctions. IP: Logged
not impressed unregistered	posted 12-13-2003 05:34 PM quote: Originally posted by Crannie: Well, I went to Cranbrook, seeking a design education and I believe I got one. I also believe that the work I made there was design, and that design is what I continue to make now. No, the program is not for everybody, but it's also not art, if you're inclined to make those kinds of distinctions. If you call that website design you have NO CLUE what real "design" is! IP: Logged
unimpressed unregistered	posted 12-13-2003 09:06 PM who really cares anyways? IP: Logged
Crannie unregistered	posted 12-14-2003 10:29 AM You may be absolutely right that I have NO CLUE. I was only speaking of myself and my work, not of the departmental site. I do believe that the program is a design-centered one, albeit not of the usual variety. Like I said, it's not for everyone. IP: Logged
inspired unregistered	posted 12-16-2003 09:23 AM Oh, my God, this site is so freaking awesome! I love the fact that it's just black and white and seemingly so simple. Then you notice all the quirks, like the type, the handwritten bios, and the students' crazy work. My one complaint is the generic audio. Other than that, this site is killer! IP: Logged
robots are tasty unregistered	posted 12-16-2003 04:19 PM quote: Originally posted by inspired: Oh, my God, this site is so freaking awesome! I love the fact that it's just black and white and seemingly so simple. Then you notice all the quirks, like the type, the handwritten bios, and the students' crazy work. My one complaint is the generic audio. Other than that, this site is killer! um did you perhaps design this site IP: Logged
inspired unregistered	posted 12-17-2003 05:25 AM No, I didn't design the site. I sort of wish I did, except for the crappy audio. Anyway, I can appreciate great design when I see it, can't I? IP: Logged
dragonfly unregistered	posted 12-19-2003 09:02 PM You know, I don't completely understand the Cranbrook enigma, as some of you don't seem to either. However, their grads are in pretty much all the top firms, wither you're talking graphics, product design, architecture, or other fields. I feel like I have to believe that there's something to their approach that's working. IP: Logged
thinking.. unregistered	posted 12-19-2003 10:18 PM it may be a good school but its not a very good site. IP: Logged
how-dee unregistered	posted 12-19-2003 11:16 PM 2cool4school More design wank from the capital of design wank I was going to go to Cranbrook then I decided to stay home and masterbate for 2 years instead, looking at that site made me realized I gained about the same level od design skills. IP: Logged
not impressed unregistered	posted 12-22-2003 03:10 PM quote: Originally posted by dragonfly: You know, I don't completely understand the Cranbrook enigma, as some of you don't seem to either. However, their grads are in pretty much all the top firms, wither you're talking graphics, product design, architecture, or other fields. From what I've seen they don't teach product design. IP: Logged

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