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Designer on the Rebound unregistered	posted 12-22-2001 02:00 AM Laid off since I last posted on this thread, found work again after a couple of months of looking. Salary went down from $45K to $41K, so about a 10% paycut, but better benefits, more exciting work and better opportunities for advancement. Not so bad, I can hardly see the difference on my paycheck. IP: Logged
ya big dummies unregistered	posted 12-26-2001 02:46 PM to think you were all suckered in to expensive art schools with dreams of big money and secure jobs... for what to make 40,000 dollars if you are lucky? any one please respond if you dare! all hail froto IP: Logged
El Guapo unregistered	posted 12-26-2001 07:02 PM Fresh college i.d. grads are lucky if they can start at 40K, let alone find work in this crazy field. Heck, those of you who are working should consider yourselves lucky to have a job. National unemployment may be at 5-7%, but I'm sure it's much much higher in i.d. IP: Logged
midwest unregistered	posted 01-01-2002 09:19 AM quote: Originally posted by ya big dummies: to think you were all suckered in to expensive art schools with dreams of big money and secure jobs... for what to make 40,000 dollars if you are lucky? any one please respond if you dare! all hail froto wow haven't heard this before. core should just have a cut and paste gallery to make bitching easier for everyone. haven't seen the movie yet but I plan too; it looks nice. IP: Logged
Hail lord of the ring unregistered	posted 01-01-2002 12:38 PM Got a pay rise,bonus and the right 2 do freelance on top of my full time design job.............I think I will need a bigger wallet ;-) IP: Logged
just keeping it active unregistered	posted 01-06-2002 02:03 PM just bringing it to the top IP: Logged
ID Wana-be unregistered	posted 01-07-2002 09:10 PM These replies are real financial downers. And to think I want to get into Industrial Design. Well, it won't be the pay that will get me into the field. A pure love for design will just have to do....I guess? A wise man once told me "...if a job was fun, who would pay you a lot to do it?" This is certainly true about ID. Just think what products would look like if they were only left up to engineers, marketing, and executives to design. For God's sake you guys/gals make the products sellable!! Topic:This is how much money we make in ID. Not a whole heck of a lot!!! IP: Logged
IDguy NYC unregistered	posted 01-08-2002 12:12 PM 10 years + NYC manhattan 75,000 + bonus Transportation and if you want to get rich this isn't the right field... IP: Logged
work hard unregistered	posted 01-09-2002 04:47 PM quit whining and start working. I'm at it just over eight years and making more than last guy (don't mean that as an insult IDguynyc and this is not directed at you, just the previous whiners..) if you would quit looking for praise and glory, and be humble, money is whatever you want it to be. the trick is to move a lot while you are young, and start in corporate, then go to consulting. out of school, don't stay at your first job for more than two years, even if you love it. move a lot while you are young, and make each of your first three corporate jobs different types of products for different experiences. It pays off later when you consult or freelance. I'm starting my 6th full time job as I speak, but also do freelance on the side, with the blessing of my employer as long as it's not conflict of interest. I'm working a lot, but also making a lot. the two go hand in hand. get out there and explore other options besides your day job. You'd be surprised what people will pay for creativity, as we take it for granted, others don't have it, and will pay for it. I love America! IP: Logged
ID Wannabe unregistered	posted 01-11-2002 11:29 PM Good for you! However, I think you misunderstood where I was going with what I said previously. Unlike you, most people become wiser with age. I made some mistakes in my early years but these were my choices and I am to blame for them, but nevertheless, its never too late to change the path you are on. No matter what a job pays, if you really love it, then you are many times richer than people who make a lot more but hate their jobs. A dream job jolts you out of bed every morning! IP: Logged
camper unregistered	posted 01-12-2002 06:55 PM entry level position: Footwear designer @ one of largest athletic footwear companies. 40k + benefits 2wks paid vacation+1wk PTO 6month reviews IP: Logged
keithnmick unregistered	posted 01-17-2002 05:01 PM ID dude in consultancy went to Arizona State U 35,000 to start w about 2000 in bonuses 40,000 2nd year just got bumped to 44,000, still expect 2,000 in bonuses. 3wks vacation company pays 1/2 cost of group med/dent plan 3 weeks vacation allowed to use facilities for freelance 50% employee matching 401k up to 10% of gross I'm pretty happy IP: Logged
jaz26 unregistered	posted 01-18-2002 06:19 AM Oh my gawd!!! can u get me a job?? quote: Originally posted by Junior deigner: $80,700 first year, 401K/ 100% match , Life, health, visual, dental insurrances. Just a junior designer, design sketch, drawing, computer(solidwork, photoshop,etc), playing games, surf internets, smoking, etc. Vacation paid full, company car Porch boxter. So happy IP: Logged
Mac Daddy unregistered	posted 01-18-2002 07:13 AM Yeah Right, If you believe "junior designer" you're a chump, too. You would think someone who drove a Porsche could spell Porsche. I think he means 80,700 rubels not dollars. IP: Logged
bring it to the top unregistered	posted 02-15-2002 01:43 PM bring it to the top IP: Logged
If you are good... unregistered	posted 02-18-2002 09:08 AM Come on guys the types of responds I've seen here are pure encouragment to cheap employers to pay even less. I just want to say that you don't have to take what most of employers will offer if you are a good designer. I turned down quite a few offers because the money was just ridiculous, and the old story of "we are not here for the money, ID is for self realization, the experience, blah, blah..." is getting old, give me a break! I'm almost 3 years out of school, pulling $85-90K a year, truth I did make about half that right out of school, but I got smart and I know my employer charges $150 for my billable hour now (I'm 100 % billable, because I work fast so my employer can bill even to make up for the time I'm chatting or learning something between projects) and I never go overbudget! That gives him 300K of billable work (we also are lucky that stayed busy even with the slow down) So making what I make is still a sweet deal for them, I got offers of 50-60K before, they where not bad for my experience, but I knew I could get better because I'm worth it, many colleagues in this industry don't think this way and all they think is that I'm greddy. I guess they've been brained washed big time, by cheap employers! Of couse there is also people who can't charge that much for design services, but again if you are good, why in the hell would you work for them? IP: Logged
to if you are good unregistered	posted 02-18-2002 11:02 AM boy you are good if you are pulling 85-90 and only have 3 years of experience. I'd say most designer go flat at that point unless they get into management/sales. Good for you. You were smart to ask for 5 or 10 K more, which a firm might budge if they want you. They are not going to lose someone over $5K. At $15K they have to start thinking, twice. Also to make that in a consultancy to boot! I assume it is a tier one design consultancy. IP: Logged
hoopie woopie unregistered	posted 02-19-2002 12:24 AM 9 yrs, off site contract designer, $79,000 IP: Logged
content unregistered	posted 02-21-2002 03:39 AM 65K first year at a top consultancy Art Center graduate 2 weeks vacation worthless 401K and medical great opportunities and a wonderful team < that matters the most IP: Logged
bring to top unregistered	posted 03-04-2002 06:34 PM bringing it to the top IP: Logged
Reality ceck unregistered	posted 03-04-2002 11:25 PM Here's a recent national salary survey article in case you missed it: http://www.parade.com/wpe/frameset_data/database_frameset.html IP: Logged
tread head unregistered	posted 03-06-2002 01:45 AM Footwear White & Brown shoes 6 yrs 70,000+ paid vac asia travel 2-3 times a year good bennies stock purchace plan & 401K pro deals with other companies fast industry 18months from board to store enjoy IP: Logged
Berkeley dropout unregistered	posted 03-08-2002 12:05 AM Architectural background. Self-employed since 1976. $175K U.S. ( Many colleagues make twice as much but are better organized). IP: Logged
nycgirl unregistered	posted 03-11-2002 10:22 PM hey, one more thing to add - male or female?? I am.... a girl in NYC 66K 10% bonus per year for "good performance" lousy insurance 401K RISD, out 6 years 1 of 12 designers for home products design manager, direct projects but hire freelancers to develope ideas, 2 assistants long hours but still learn everyday so worth it quote: Originally posted by Income: Everyone always asks this, so lets make it one big post, instead of little ones all over, and get it over with. If you have a job, write in and tell us what you make, or what your co-worker makes, or what the principles of the firm make, or whatever (if you know). Please no names (that includes the made up ones people are identified with here) Keep it anonomous but honest(we do not care who you are or what company you work for, we are interested in what the incomes for the industry really are). Try to add a general area of design you work in, type of company, a general location, and your years of experience. US (east, mid-west, west)? Europe (country)? Asia (country, city)? Canada (don't bother, just kidding, west prairie, or east)? Southern Hemisphere (we want to here from you too)? Working on your own? Working for a design firm? Working for a manufacturer? Working as a desk designer? working as a senior designer? Working as a design manager? Again please no names, that includes the made up ones people go by on this site. We do not wish this to be a joke posting, or mis-information, only honest replies. This info is valuable to all of us in the industry, and there are few acurate resourses for us. This is not to pose further questions, please just post a reply only. I suggest this format for replies: UserName: a.) Funiture designer, for a manufacturer, in mid-west, USA, have 5 years experience - $43,000 (US) no stock options. IP: Logged
fresh fish unregistered	posted 03-12-2002 02:45 PM Just graduated college three months ago, got a job in L.A. making $103K a year with a Jag company car and a Condo on the ocean, all the standard bennies and Fridays off...with two hour lunches mon-thurs. Hours= 9:30 am - 3:30pm. I design for the porn industry and meet tons of willing and beautiful women everyday. Lots and Lots of sex!! ........Hey, I was just trying to keep up with all you other liars on this board. I can dream can't I?? IP: Logged
pdg1rl unregistered	posted 03-12-2002 10:09 PM to content, what consultancy do u work at? IP: Logged
Ribzz unregistered	posted 03-16-2002 07:30 PM I saw a couple poeple from CCS. Anyone want to share their great and not so great feelings on CCS. I am finsihing up my 2nd year(after 2 years of business) and am turning pretty synical thanks to my time here. IP: Logged
james name your price unregistered	posted 03-18-2002 10:06 PM 1 year out of school 9.50 hr/about 18,000 a year 1 week vacation no creativity but I'm working. I'm HAPPY! IP: Logged
fuck u too unregistered	posted 04-03-2002 11:35 AM quote: Originally posted by to asia: ** you asia, you are never paid as much.never will any id be paid over 30k in asia no matter what kind of degree you have. you are full of shit.4.5 k part time? ** you asshole **** U 45k is also available, U jackass IP: Logged
oldie unregistered	posted 04-12-2002 03:13 PM 20 years experience. Mostly freelance. Some corporate. almost no software knowedge. as I recall... 1982 12k 1985 30k 1990 $60 per hour 1995 $80 per hour 2000 $100 per hour part time IP: Logged
suresh s alapati unregistered	posted 04-26-2002 03:06 AM hi, my name is suresh from bangalore,i have done my diploma in mech class of 92 and have 10 yrs of exp in fabrication and manufacturing,at present i am working for a s/w comp,i am working on autocad2k.I have done a course in pro-e(PTC-Certified),if there is any chance can you get me a job on pro-e. my mail id is suresh_alapati2000@yahoo.com regards suresh IP: Logged
in 1986 unregistered	posted 04-26-2002 07:13 AM started at $20,000 Canadian in 1986, what is the starting salary now. IP: Logged
in 2002 unregistered	posted 04-26-2002 07:15 AM $20,500 these days....which translates to about $1.50 U.S. IP: Logged
13 years unregistered	posted 04-26-2002 08:03 AM Graduated from NCSU in 1989 1st Job (Corp) - $18K/year (Southeast) Title- Design Coordinator 2nd Job (Corp) - $42-$45K/year (Midwest) Title- Product Development Manager 3rd Job (Corp) - $35-$40K/year (Southeast) Title- Designer 4th job (Corp) - $43K/year (Southeast) Title-Industrial Designer 5th job (Corp) - $$50-$54K/year plus bonus (Southeast/Midwest) Title- Product Development Manager 6th job (Cons) - $50K-$45K/year plus part ownership (Southeast) Title- Lion Tamer 7th job (Corp) - $63K/year plus heavy stock options (Southeast) Title- Design & Engineering Specialist IP: Logged
to 13 years unregistered	posted 04-26-2002 11:44 AM can you please elaborate on your stock options. how many strike price current stock price over 4 years? thanks IP: Logged
:) unregistered	posted 04-26-2002 11:54 AM Was making $18-20K a year for first 5 uyeas of my career. Then hit a big client and was maing $120,000 a year for 2 years as a contractor until the client's company folded. Now back to about $20K a year on freelance. IP: Logged
slippyfish unregistered	posted 04-26-2002 12:26 PM hello anyone working in NYC... how much does a designer need to make to at least be above the poverty level in NYC? 50K? 60K? It seems out here around the Bay Area, especially in SF, if you are pulling under 45K it's a squeeze, factoring in rent and maybe a car or school loan payment. IP: Logged
monkey_grunt unregistered	posted 04-26-2002 02:30 PM Pratt - undergrad Gatech - grad First job - 26500[starting] to 28500[raise](in NYC and not enough to live on) Second job - 20800 to 24500 (in SE still not enough to live on) third job - 37500 to 42375(in SE After grad, almost enough but now I owe 55,000 dollars in loans) fourth - 60000 to 62500 to 50000 (pay cut, I don't like pay cuts) fifth - 78000 - 80000 (in SE work full-time from home) I worked at each of the first 4 jobs for about two years. I have found changing jobs to the best way to get a raise! IP: Logged
13 years unregistered	posted 04-26-2002 03:16 PM Stock options - Sorry I can't give you all the details, yet and a lot of it depends on the price that the company is sold at. There is so much fuzzy math involved that I could make $5K or I could make $350K. It's all gambling, but I am currently being paid well and the environment is very nice, so why not. My plan is to use the money to start my own business, which would be a conduit between designers (initially in the USA) and manufacturers (initially in the Orient). I seem to be good at sniffing out good manufacturers. IP: Logged
From DTW to LAX unregistered	posted 04-26-2002 10:13 PM Southern Cali.....ID degree from midwest school. 8yrs experience in the office furniture and toy industries, 60k, 50-55hrs week, lots of options, 10-30% annual bonus depending on company performance, avg medical benefits. Design mgr...50% ID, 50% project mngmnt with outside designers and Asian factories. IP: Logged

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