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cruzcontrol
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posted 03-04-2001 11:46 PM              Reply w/Quote
I will be graduating w/a BS in ID. What are your opinions on seeking entry-level positions through recruiting services(RitaSue, Roz, Stone)??? What are the benefits or downfalls of seeking employment through headhunters? Please pass on any pos or neg experiences that you may have had.
Thanx

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posted 03-06-2001 11:57 PM              Reply w/Quote
I would recommend you not use headhunters. While I have no experience with them, the presentation of a designer is critical. Taking matters into your own hands says a lot to an employer. It allows you to express yourself to a much larger extent, and that's what it takes to get results in design. Express your abilities, qualities, mind. Be a "go getter", don't rely on anything other than your abilities.

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hunters
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posted 03-07-2001 06:46 PM              Reply w/Quote
You can use the normal hunters. Just do not count on them getting you a job. It is just another additional tool.

In the end I think now you would be best doing a search on the web. It seems many of the technology jobs are now online.

It also depends if you wish to live in a certain geographical area.

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diedler
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posted 03-08-2001 02:17 PM              Reply w/Quote
I have never had good experiences with hunters. They are good to practice with in phone interviews and in answering difficult questions but that is about all I have used them for. Sharpen my verbal presentation skills.

All the jobs I have landed have been contacts by word of mouth, I hear joe blow design is really swamped, they could use you, type of thing.

Or I have just cold called corporations and asked for the design manager. We talk, they give the polite not hiring right now and forget about me. I call back three months and they are busy and say Yeah! I remember you, come on in.

Even if you interview and they choose someone else, call back in six months. things change and you need to be there before they put an ad in a journal or on the web.

Answering postings on the web puts you in line with hundreds of others and you will be lost unless your last job is exactly like the position described.

This applies to new grads as well as veterans.

Good luck

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job searching is fun
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posted 03-11-2001 01:03 AM              Reply w/Quote
Contrary to what others have said, I have had extremely good luck with design headhunters. Most of them have really good relationships with their clients and can give you an inside track. I graduated in December and have gotten 2 interviews which led to offers from well respected places. A headhunter is basically your agent and will try hard for you because they get a HUGE bonus if you get signed. As for general headhunters; they mean well but know much less about ID and might send you in for a job doing something other than industrial design, but it's still a good idea to follow all leads until you're sure it's not what you are interested in.

When I started my search I opened up an ID magazine and contacted the headhunters that I saw for ID as well as performing my own search.

I used RitaSue, The Creative Resource, and Stone and Co.

All of them but Stone and Co. gave me interview options-but it was possibly just bad timing with them('cause of the economy). However, I was a little disillusioned with the SandC recruiter because she told me to take whatever I could get. She hadn't even seen any work samples yet!! I figured they just must not deal with industrial design that often.

Overall(w/ and w/o headhunters) I've had four good offers thus far.

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job searching is fun
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posted 03-11-2001 01:03 AM              Reply w/Quote
Contrary to what others have said, I have had extremely good luck with design headhunters. Most of them have really good relationships with their clients and can give you an inside track. I graduated in December and have gotten 2 interviews which led to offers from well respected places. A headhunter is basically your agent and will try hard for you because they get a HUGE bonus if you get signed. As for general headhunters; they mean well but know much less about ID and might send you in for a job doing something other than industrial design, but it's still a good idea to follow all leads until you're sure it's not what you are interested in.

When I started my search I opened up an ID magazine and contacted the headhunters that I saw for ID as well as performing my own search.

I used RitaSue, The Creative Resource, and Stone and Co.

All of them but Stone and Co. gave me interview options-but it was possibly just bad timing with them('cause of the economy). However, I was a little disillusioned with the SandC recruiter because she told me to take whatever I could get. She hadn't even seen any work samples yet!! I figured they just must not deal with industrial design that often.

Overall(w/ and w/o headhunters) I've had four good offers thus far.

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They are bad
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posted 03-19-2001 10:41 PM              Reply w/Quote
. . . they don't really know more than you do - that is unless of course you are too lazy to look for work. Judging by sallaries which designers have and how much these "professionals" charge , Id say hiring one could put you out of business. You are better off doing your own homework and impressing prospective employer by taking your own initiative while searching for work.

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dork
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posted 03-20-2001 01:51 PM              Reply w/Quote
the answer to the original question, headhunters, 'good or bad' is a resounding YES.

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Richard
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posted 03-21-2001 05:42 PM              Reply w/Quote
As a recent jobhunter, I think that it would be stupid to not use all of the resources available to you; including headhunters. It costs you nothing to go through a recruiter, and you'll sometimes find jobs that were posted nowhere else.

If a company can afford to hire a headhunter to bring in interviewees and potentional employees, they have a lot of resources and are willing to pay top dollar to bring in people with the skills that they're looking for.

A recruiter might not know more than you do about how to find a job, but they often do have close relationships with their clients which can possibly give you an edge over the next candidate. Not to mention, their clients are always successful firms or large corporations because they're the only ones that can afford to use a recruiter.


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dork
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posted 03-21-2001 07:03 PM              Reply w/Quote
ritasue siegal has a phat reputation, and got me a good paying job. it took a while after the job offer materialized and she told me to stop looking (3 months, and my rent was behind 3 months already!).

i felt she strung me along to fit the clients agenda, of course- they are the ones paying her. if i had to do this again, i'd do both use the headhunters and pound also on your own doors.

it is to your benefit to contact ALL headhunters to help you, as Richard says. Make sure you're not paying any fees- otherwise its not legit.

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dork
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posted 03-21-2001 07:06 PM              Reply w/Quote
ps forgot to add-

the company i work for did not post or advertise anywhere else, they dealt directly with ritasue.

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cruzcontrol
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posted 04-03-2001 04:15 PM              Reply w/Quote
Thanx to everyone for the feedback. It does make sense to use every resource available, especially if it comes at no cost to myself.

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