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Topic: Mac OS versus PC OS
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Njosnavelin
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posted 12-04-2003 12:51 PM
I have always wondered what the “so-called” advantage in designing with a Mac instead of a PC? I’m fluent with both operating systems and the software associated. But have found no real advantage in either. My only logical guess is it might be a color issue. Maybe Mac’s have an accurate
on-screen display of color similar to the color you will receive with the printer. I’m sure some of you must have a better explanation!
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posted 12-04-2003 07:38 PM
i use pcs, because of programs, but as far as i know..macs are better because they look cooler, and are known for use by DESIGNERS...otherwise, PC is still 90%+ of ppl. IP: Logged |
lauren g
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posted 12-04-2003 07:57 PM
They are both just tools. I use both and don't find any advantages. As far as printing, its all in how you calibrate your monitor. You will never get an exact match since no 2 printering machines print the same and no 2 monitors display the same. Also the printing color can change depending on the type of paper you use... that's why designers specify color to their printers (when they job out) in PMS colors.IP: Logged |
Cyaxares
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posted 12-04-2003 09:27 PM
2 Reasons: Old habits and a lifetime investment in incompatible fonts.IP: Logged |
SilkkNLPc
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posted 12-04-2003 11:07 PM
well if you get virtural pc you can run windows (on the mac0 and you can run mac os..!IP: Logged |
pete
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posted 12-05-2003 03:05 AM
Mac os is great but you need to find out what kind of software you gan get. Personally i like mac and apple because of their innovative design, price is higher.
Hingh-ends cads like Pro/E, UGS and Catia wont work in Mac. Soft windows is absolutely too slow for these.IP: Logged |
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posted 12-09-2003 07:47 PM
"well if you get virtural pc you can run windows (on the mac0 and you can run mac os..!" umm have you ever tried that... TALK ABOUT SLOW!!!
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Njosnavelin
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posted 12-10-2003 12:56 AM
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"well if you get virtural pc you can run windows (on the mac0 and you can run mac os..!" umm have you ever tried that... TALK ABOUT SLOW!!!
This question is my fellow Visual Communicators. Apparently my original post wasn’t specific enough for a few of you, sorry. And to those of you who understood my original post your comments are appreciated. When I began my career in the visual arts I always heard that Macs had an advantage over PC as far as generating design work. Personally, I have not found any advantages in either platform. Simply put I’m Asking “Are there any defined advantages to designing with a Mac, and if so what are they?”
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posted 12-10-2003 11:52 AM
If you work in 2d or print use a Mac. Most of your service bureaus, output places, printers etc use Mac or Unix based (Fiery and Iris, and 6 color Heidelbergs) print software. Becasue of this compatibility issues, color outputting, formatting and file saving are generally geared toward the Mac. As far a simple performace issues the only differences I know of is that most viruses target the Windows OS, because its so pervasive, leaving Macs relatively immune; another is that Macs can read PC files natively, PC can only read mac files if they are told to do so. and finally Mac OSX is an open source architecture which doesn't mean much to you unless you are a software developer.... IP: Logged |
silkknlpc
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posted 12-10-2003 01:50 PM
well if you have the duel 2ghz G5 then it wont be slow! blah!IP: Logged |
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posted 12-10-2003 03:32 PM
I have found PC to be more compatable if you know what you are doing. And comparable systems in other words, dual 1 gig mac v/s dual 1gig pc on same amount of ram i have found pc to be much faster with graphic aps but at that time mac was still behind as usual and using slower ram vs's the rdr ram in the pc, equivilant graphic cards too. the only major advantage of Mac is if you get hired for graphics you will be using one unfortunatly so knowing them and having one helps. Other than that concentrate on the amount of ram and graphic card do not even worry about the processor speed as any new processor is smoking these days. To answer your question mac monitors are or at least were better in the past at matching printers, although this is changing as you can have higher and higher quality monitors for both now. The best explination i can give you why is years ago mac was more advanced than pc and smoked pcs in graphics so it became the
" industry standard" as you will hear way too often. Mac however is one company and is competing with many many manufacturing firms that produce interchangable parts for "PCs" All of the competition has lead PCs to advance way beyond the technology Mac currently has. This might change in the future but now if you want to go on Possible inner gut choices pc is well beyond mac. Hope this helps, also when you say PC that is so generic it depends on your OS too. I have found xp up to service pack 3 to be good as well as windows 2000 or NT is very stable too. ME, 98,95, are not good for a graphic OS although they make good internet word processors. People who only use macs seem to think they are more stable i have not experienced this with macs at all they crash just as much when doing heavy application use. just use what you like PC works fine for graphics with compatibility and so does mac if you know what you are doing. IP: Logged |
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posted 12-10-2003 03:35 PM
"well if you have the duel 2ghz G5 then it wont be slow! blah!" Sorry, personally The new dual 2g macs seem slow to me, but I use a 3.2g pc now. IP: Logged |
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posted 12-10-2003 03:44 PM
it also has more to do with ram than the processorIP: Logged |
Voice of Reason
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posted 12-10-2003 03:55 PM
And the g5s won't even run Virtual PC.
Macs used to be superior to PCs in print design due to Colorsync - the Apple feature that allowed god printer/display/process color matching.
PCs have caught up now with Microsofts "ICM" - I think they're on ICM2 actually. (Note - it's NOT due to Macs having "better monitors") The advantages of one over the other are pretty moot these days. Macs are nicer to look at on the outside, and have a great OS, but PCs have more software available to them in terms of 3d apps. Any print place will be able to take both PC and Mac files these days, and PCs can open Mac files perfectly well, as long as you save with a file extension andf don't use Mac formatted media. It's really down to personal preference. IP: Logged |
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posted 12-10-2003 07:49 PM
"PCs have caught up now with Microsofts "ICM" - I think they're on ICM2 actually. (Note - it's NOT due to Macs having "better monitors")"I STAND CORRECTED... BUT IF YOUR ASKING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAC AND PC YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND ICM, ITS EASIER TO SAY THE MONITORS WERE BETTER AND ACTUALLY THEY WERE MORE ACCURATE. IP: Logged |
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posted 12-11-2003 12:28 AM
Macworld recently ran a bunch of tests with macs against PC's and the PC's won everything except the dvd video stuff.
I was surprised they presented their findings in an unbiased way.
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posted 12-12-2003 12:57 PM
Wow, I am suprised too. I had to read what you wrote twice. I was like of coarse they said theirs was better then I am like what. WoW that Says it all! IP: Logged |
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posted 12-12-2003 01:42 PM
http://www.macworld.com/magazine/ IP: Logged |
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posted 12-12-2003 07:08 PM
The more and more i deal with and hear about macs the i am starting to believe they are just pintos and chevettes with corvette body. "Just like your car, your Mac needs routine maintenance in order to run smoothly. Unlike your car, your Mac can perform some of this maintenance on its own. Two important tasks to perform regularly are Disk Utility's Repair Permissions and OS X's Unix maintenance scripts. "
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posted 12-13-2003 08:32 AM
PC's need routine maintenance too. Not a big deal. Much of it you can schedule to do automatically. quote:
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"Just like your car, your Mac needs routine maintenance in order to run smoothly. Unlike your car, your Mac can perform some of this maintenance on its own. Two important tasks to perform regularly are Disk Utility's Repair Permissions and OS X's Unix maintenance scripts. "
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posted 12-13-2003 06:00 PM
yeah but my pc doesn't die horribly if I don't run system works and disk doctor every week. (I absolutely have to on my G4, or it'll crash)...but for now I'm blaming illustrator and damm pdf's from websites IP: Logged |
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posted 12-13-2003 08:19 PM
Yeah illustrator is the only application that tends to crash on my PC. I find if I rebot I'm fine. Don't have that problem with the Macromedia software or even photoshop. Not sure why my sytem doesn't like illustrator.Of cource I save often! IP: Logged |
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posted 12-19-2003 07:55 PM
never had a problem with illustrator on pc. but as far as the disk doctor for mac i am
supprised it needs it although i hate macs.
my pc i love it but i have to run the
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cg
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posted 12-23-2003 06:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Njosnavelin:
This question is my fellow Visual Communicators.Apparently my original post wasn’t specific enough for a few of you, sorry. And to those of you who understood my original post your comments are appreciated. When I began my career in the visual arts I always heard that Macs had an advantage over PC as far as generating design work. Personally, I have not found any advantages in either platform. Simply put I’m Asking “Are there any defined advantages to designing with a Mac, and if so what are they?”
No there aren't. There used to be, but now it's quite the opposite.
For instance, it used to be that design software was written for the Mac (ie. design) market first, then ported to Windows if there was a market. Now even that's flipped! Macromedia products are even released for PC first! The world is actually getting harder and harder for Mac holdouts... A Graphic designer friend of mine recently related the following story: She started at a company with a tiny GD staff and the only Macs in the building. Their IT staff knows nothing of Macs, so they're constantly having problems with them and it's up to them to fix them (if they can.) Meanwhile they're stuck using crap like Netscape for email. Recently her role expanded to the design of their corporate website--cool she thought. Oops, but they're running a CMS (Content Management System) that's not compatible with Macs! So how is she supposed to design for the site?? At this point, all the printers that they work with will take Mac or PC, so compatability isn't a problem--except with the years and years of Mac Quark files they're sitting on. She told me she'd rather be using Adobe InDesign anyway (Quark is showing it's age...) Dude, she's gettin' a Dell. IP: Logged |
Dell
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posted 12-31-2003 02:19 PM
she can't have me! IP: Logged |
betteryet
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posted 12-31-2003 02:22 PM
build your own, dell is ok, gateway sux though. build your own its not that hard and you have complete control over your system, it gives you power most designers do not have when you can be your own tech and fix your problems yourself rather than waiting on tech support department to "get around to it" IP: Logged |
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posted 12-31-2003 02:25 PM
dell "dude" busted for pot, and we all know ellen feiss uses! see a patern here? They think were all reffer addicts! IP: Logged |
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