posted 12-30-2003 06:28 PM              

Ok so that being said, Is it still hard to find a job, even if you’re pretty talented. Let me break this down the way I see it and maybe you can all defrag or support some of my observations.

Obviously many of the 12,000+ portfolios on Coroflot are old, neglected, suck, etc. or the person found a job. But even if those excuses ate up 3/4ths of the portfolios that's still roughly 3,000 portfolios to the 175 jobs listed. Or a ratio of 17 to 1. That doesn't seem to promising. Ok but wait, not all design jobs get posted on core and are only listed by word of mouth or some other media. Cut that in half and that’s still 9 to 1. Is that a good observation or am I off? If so, in what regards?

posted 12-30-2003 10:54 PM              

Please dont talk about process or creativitry, because you are nothing.

I am everything, because my daddy works here.

Just remember we need you to be a good team player while you recieve no benefits of being on the team. Do as I say and dont question??? or add input!

Because I am your BOSS & you are nothing because your daddy doesnt work here.

Being a freelancer does not have anything to do with getting a job here. But most of our employees are result of freelancing for us first. But disregard that.

Yes we may hire a woman when she is over 50 years old after ten plus years of freelancing. But we are great. My daddy is great and you are nothing more than I say you are.

Fisher Price, Creative Services Department. East Aurora, NY

Sincerely,
L.D.

we need good team players!

we need good team players!

we need good team players!

We love abusing graphic designers in the economic wasteland of Upstate, NY

posted 12-31-2003 09:05 AM              

The key to anything in life is determination and persistence. The fact that I got a job when the eco sucked is truth enough.

Don't look at statistics, because that only keeps you down. Try to meet people, shake lots of hands, and don't believe people when they try and tell you that you suck....

posted 12-31-2003 01:19 PM              

You have to be creative now days.

Go to smaller companies who might not have a design team, show them some flashy stuff they are not used to seeing and who knows, you might be head of a new department.

Don't just apply either, you gota have tricks to get your feet in the door. Say you were refered to the company by someone, this will immediately get your name to the person who matters, it doesn't matter if they know the person or not if you get the interview. If a receptionist says you were referred to the company by "john blow" then they will likely interview you as a courtesy even if they are not hiring. Then you can pull out all stops and show them why they are losing if they do not hire you. People are so busy they don't know if they actually talked to the person or if the person exists or whatever if they ask just say they are a big designer in the area who recognized the quality work for their company and you have been working with that designer to better your portfolio or some BS.

You have to have talent and a lot of it the trend is to get more for less so even the seasoned designers recieving jobs in this economy are not getting what they would wish sometimes.

If your work is lacking I would never stear you from your dream of design but focus and realize area's you need to improve on and practice.

Wise~ you sound like you are a determined individual who can do a lot in the design world. Focus your energies on your portfolio, presentation, and job searching stratagies not the economy. A lot of people recieve freelance jobs from core but i honestly don't think many get staff jobs from coroflot, so don't be afraid to show your work on here and get feedback, but be prepared for the negative losers who's portfolios are so lacking they have no more hope than to diss other folios on core.

as keeptrying said goodluck and happy newyear

posted 01-02-2004 07:50 AM              

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Originally posted by KEEPTRYING:
"Also look to the military who is always looking for good designers, or possibly hollywood, maybe you will find you are an excellent digital matt painter."[/B]

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WHo in the military hires designers. I've asked around (i am military) and the ones I know aren't aware of it. Maybe I am asking the wrong ppl. Can you enlighten me on where to look for design opportunities in the Military and hollywood is hiring?