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  Scott Watrous

  17 days ago

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  Modularity is certainly a thing but, what about this Mac Pro is modular in a way that differs from every non-Apple PC in the last 30+ years? 
  
  You mention that on a PC you have to research compatible parts and find a screwdriver and install an aftermarket component. But that's if you bought a Dell from Best Buy and want to slap in a new graphics card. But that undersells what is actually a thriving market of computer component makers and houses, where you aren't replacing "quality name-brand stuff" with "crazy aftermaket upgrades" like some kid putting a fancy exhaust on his Corolla. Instead you have computers being built from the ground up with a tailored suite of components made by the various respected brands in the industry, by experienced builders. And then if you decided over time to upgrade there are upgrade paths whereby you can swap specific components without having to rebuild a whole new machine, and keep the bulk of your experience identical while enjoying more speed to keep up with new technology.
  
  The whole point of the PC is that it is made of compatible interfaces and standards. You pick and choose the specific motherboard you want. You choose a processor and graphics card based on the workflow you anticipate. You pick whether you need more or less cooling fans, or water-cooling loops. You can choose a minimalist case with minimal I/O and then later decide to upgrade to a nicer case with better cooling and ease of access and more I/O ports.  There are dozens and dozens of companies, in a massive industry, all making modules that manage to work together because there's a lot of money riding on the fact that they follow set standards to allow professionals to build a high-performance modular computing machine.
  
  Apple has simply been the closed garden monolith that said "we know the best configuration for our environment" and by and large that can be true. But the reality is that less and less can one configuration rule them all in high-end computing where you need niche hardware and lots of horsepower as we've tapped out our speeds per core. The fact that they are finally conceding that many professional users want flexibility to tailor their machines to their workflows, as was pointed out in the article, is just them avoiding becoming completely irrelevant to the true professional class that is worried about performance and bottom line more than what brand of computer they use. 
  
  And does anyone think for a second that in 5 years when it's time to upgrade your CPU and Mobo that Apple will just sell that stuff and let you piecemeal upgrade while keeping your case, PSU, HDD, SSD, etc? No. They will try and pawn everyone off on a brand new tower whole-hog. Sure, that will be what most professionals need anyway, because no-one has time for the logistics of simply upgrading a bunch of machines, but it ultimately means that Apple could just as well offer simply a highly configurable base machine and let users buy exactly what hardware they need, which is already common for every single PC maker, 

  
  A telling example for me is when Casey Neistat chose to ditch his beloved Apple and his R2D2 Mac Pro for a swanky custom-built PC, because Apple simply diddn't offer anything that could remotely do what he needed done. 
  
  That all said, I do like the actual industrial design of new Mac Pro case. If Apple was just selling it as an fancy ATX chassis I could see people buying one for a regular PC build, because it's a slick piece of hardware. But ultimately you can get a really excellent, well designed, stylish PC case today for under $200 without even trying so, that's still not a huge selling point. 

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    Calvin Chu

    Scott Watrous

    17 days ago

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    You got it spot on. Custom PC builds and the ecosystem of computer components that supports them will always have a crucial position in the market; infinite options and best bang for your buck. Plus, it’s fun too. The subtle yet important distinction between a custom PC and the modular Mac Pro is design scope. In both cases, the design objective is to create a product that meets the specific workflow needs of the user. However, the product designer is different in each.

    
    

    For the new Mac Pro, Apple is definitely the one designing. The benefit of their walled garden is its constraints lead to a consistent and thoroughly tested user experience. The modular design is their way of delivering workflow customization without forfeiting the ‘works out of the box’ experience. The downside is that it takes more engineering and QA teams to deliver that, so it’s reflected in the price... along with the Apple brand premium.

    
    

    For a PC build, the end user becomes the product designer and has a wealth of quality components to create a dream machine. Some of the builds on /r/battlestations are amazing and for sure cost less than a Mac with matching specs. But the downside is that the system integration and quality assurance falls on the end user. I bet most readers here (including me) wouldn’t mind that extra design responsibility, albeit time and knowledge permitting.

    
    

    Apple spent 30+ years moving further away from bespoke hardware (ie. Apple I handbuilt by Woz) towards products made with the, as you called it, “we know best” mentality. What’s significant about this week’s announcement is that Apple finally reached the boundary. The old Mac Pro was not flexible and it failed. Now the pendulum is swinging back. At the same time, companies like Microsoft and Google are shifting their product design scope by designing their own Surface and Pixel hardware instead of leaving it to 3rd parties. We’re seeing these workflow-centric products at that convergence point, which will be a positive trend for all computer users. Do you think this will be the future?

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  Tim Rowledge

  16 days ago

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  You left out the best (by far) modular computer  - the Acorn RISC-PC.

  https://images.app.goo.gl/oWteMvyyz9JNGKRBA Has a rather... extreme... expanded example.
  

  A base, a top, add slices in the middle. That’s how you do it.

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    Calvin Chu

    Tim Rowledge

    16 days ago

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    Wow this is amazing haha. There's actually a kitchen sink on top???

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      Tim Rowledge

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      15 days ago

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      Yup. Mind you , as best I can remember, the pizza oven didn’t actually get to true cooking temperatures.

      They were damned good machines - there’s still quite a few in use. 

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  Sean Horita

  15 days ago

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  With this new MPX module, isn't Apple basically reinforcing their walled ecosystem approach by saying "you can upgrade this over time, you just have to do it our way"...?

  
  

  With the promise of 'modular' comes the flip-side of 'standards'. Bicycles used to be a lot more 'modular' before so-called standards proliferated in the guise of 'higher performance'. 

  
  

  What's more fun is the 'look' of modularity, going back to Helmut's example. You need several boxes that differ only in one or two dimensions, each with a similar form factor, each with its own logo, like a stack of encyclopedias. Unfortunately the examples in consumer electronics that come to mind from the past few decades were DOA, from Handspring Visor to Google Aura. Turns out most people don't actually want to be gadgety and switch configurations all the time; they just want one thing that works. The products suffer from additional plastic, excess inventory, and fancy connectors. 

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  P S

  15 days ago

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  It's a tower PC, they've existed for decades. Is this one better than other workstation machines? Maybe, but it's so far from being new or innovate it's laughable.

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  David Spiva

  18 days ago

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  I'm starting to suspect these articles are paid shill editorial verticals.
  Really? Modularity is not new, and it should not come at such a paid premium.
  The previous article saying Apple is right to charge a thousand bucks for a piece of equipment that doesn't even have a single capacitor in it, is madness.
  A thousand dollars could change a family in Botswana's life forever, and you're defending the ability to tilt a screen 90 degrees as some sort of religious experience.
  Face it guys, Apple is the Supreme of personal computers.
  

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    Nathan D.

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    16 days ago

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    After several years of nothing but links to terrible Eric Strebel videos and reposts of six year old blog entries from some dude that sells overpriced chisels *this* is what you think is payola? 

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