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Posted by hipstomp | 18 Aug 2008
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I'll say it: I am sooooo sick of overpriced design. I am so sick of seeing beautiful things that only rich people can afford. The "industrial" in industrial design implies mass production, which in turn implies it's for the masses, no?
Dror Benshetrit's Pick Chairs are an undeniably clever design that hangs flat on the wall when not in use. These "space savers" are also priced at $1,630 a pop--does that make sense? As FunForever wryly observes, "if you had the money to buy these chairs, you'd be able to afford a bigger apartment."
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Typical CAD design without any real world testing. There's NO way a design like that would support much weight. Stupid CAD only schools never teach people to make prototypes and realize their ideas are retarded.
Industrial production only becomes affordable for the masses when it is produced in large quantities, Obviously this design has little merit when it comes practicality and appeal to the mass market.
Right? These are horrible. What kind of hinge are they using? Its ugly wall art that turns into the most uncomfortable chair ever.
@Rob
Dror was my instructor a couple semesters back in SVA. He did a presentation on his work on the first day of class, and I remember he mentioned that this chair was fully tested and able to support surprisingly heavy weight. I have to agree that it's quite an expensive design though.
Cool idea for a quick end-/coffee table, but a chair? I could see it working, but only with some additional stability components, high resistance hinges, and strong materials. You could probably make one in a day with $25-50 of materials.
still...it this thing even remotely comfortable?
Very, very cool idea though - would make it easy to store too.
--Shalin
Regardless of the structural integrity the idea is so trite and Spineless. Love the tree graphic!
I really don't care who your instructor is. It won't hold much weight. There's no bracing to support the hinges. Even if you make it out of metal, it will fail from fatigue due to extremely high stress areas.
I got to check out a couple of these in Dror's NYC studio and they seem to be pretty good quality and support a person's weight easily. I didn't jump up and down on them though.... mainly cause I couldn't afford to replace them if they broke... haha.
Ugh, anything can fold-up if you work hard enough at it, the trick is to make it look and feel good. Clearly, these chairs accomplish neither. When I see these all I can think about is getting a terrible pinch! In total agreement that the biggest offender is the price. $1600 each is a joke
Have to be the devils advocate on this one. No, it is not cheap, but at this stage I gather it is made in quite small batches with minimal tooling. Sure, if it were mass produced the part cost would decrease, but only after investing many thousands on tooling and further testing.
It's all well and good to say it is expensive, but the only way to lower the cost is to convince someone that the idea is worth investing huge amounts to develop further.
As all those who do it know, making anything remotely complex in small numbers is expense, retailer mark-up doubles the cost, plus tack on the designers own expenses so that he might be able to pay a bill and it adds up.
To those saying it "will fail" due to lack of bracing, material selection etc obviously didn't bother to check out the link provided before giving their "educated opinion". It is made of metal, and there is additional bracing.
Man you guys can't even click a link? The wooden chairs look like renderings, but the link shows actual photo's with clear panels (!) so you all can see that the hinges are indeed supported.